Not to long ago I blogged about the 2000 Blogger Project created by Tino Buntic.
It was Tino Buntic aim to show 2000 bloggers all on one page. The projected started out with photos/links of 300 or so bloggers. The rest of the spots were filled on a sign-up basis.
When I learned that Tino had included me in the project I was flattered. I saw it as a way of networking bloggers together.
It was not long before I started to see an increase in inbound links. I begun to get a little concerned. I never added the code to my blog, instead I linked to the main page of 2000 bloggers.
Though I was seeing an increase in traffic from the project, I was not seeing a network being formed. I mean in my opinion I see no benefit in getting all these inbound links if no one is reading what I blog about.
I also had some concerns with Google thinking it was a link farm. I still do have that concern. I don’t want to see my blog penalized. Can you blame me?
That is why after some consideration, I have requested not to be included in the project and to have my photo and linked removed.
I do not want anyone to think that I disapprove of the project. I think it was a great idea in the beginning and I think it was definitely a creative idea.
I just do not deserve the incoming links to my blog. I would like people to link to my blog because they appreciate my content and because they think that I’m worth linking to. I don’t want anyone to link to me because I was part of this project or any project for that matter.
If you’re one of the 2000 bloggers or if you are considering joining the project, all I ask you is to think about it and ask yourself this: Do you deserve all those inbound links?
Think about it!
Technorati has also voiced some concerns about this too in their post ‘Breaking the Chains.’
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22 responses so far ↓
Wrote: Feb 6, 2007 at 10:21 pm
I didn’t add the code, just a link to the site.
I guess I’m just a Technorati-ranking whore.
Ian
Wrote: Feb 6, 2007 at 10:34 pm
I’m biting my toungue on that one Ian.
Wrote: Feb 6, 2007 at 10:57 pm
I have mixed feelings about the incoming link part, because after reading some articles about it, it turns out I didn’t really understand the Technorati ranking system, but after examining my stats, I got more actual visits to my blog in the past 24 hours than I normally do in a week or two. This is a good thing, for me, as I’ve wanted more readers, and maybe, just maybe, I’ll get a few new permanent ones.
Wrote: Feb 6, 2007 at 11:05 pm
I didn’t realize that some people were added without asking to be added. Hmmm. This changes some things…
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 12:04 am
Elain, yes I was added without asking Tino to add me.
Bill, I too want new readers. I now have 869 links coming in from Technorati and I know for sure without counting them that 143 of the links I don’t deserve.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 1:55 am
“I didn’t realize that some people were added without asking to be added. Hmmm. This changes some things…”
Personally, I find this to be something that none of us should worry about. The possibility that you will get penalized for an inbound link is virtually slim to none. Why? Because if that were the case, then what would stop my competitors from simply linking to me from “bad” sites? Think about it. You have no control over who links to you and if the search engines are going to damage you because of it then the entire web is in serious trouble.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 2:11 am
Eric, I’m not concerned with a bad neighbour linking to me, however it is said Bad Neighbour links can seriously affect your search ranking if you are the one linking to websites that are consider ‘bad neighbours.‘
This is of course is not the case seeing how I’m not linking to the 2000 bloggers. I never put the code on my blog.
We both know that Google is not fond of link Farms (Automated Linking schemes) and lets face is 2000 bloggers on one page will be looked at by Google as a link farm even if Tino did not mean for it to be .
You might not care if you are peanalized by Google, but I sure as heck do.
Again this is my decision to opt out, but thank you for dopping by and voicing your thoughts.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 10:04 am
I don’t mind the increase in inbound links or the possibility of being penalized. The blog Tino linked with is my personal blog, and it’s hosted free at Wordpress.
However, for self-hosted blogs like yours you have a way out of this dilemma. You can create a separate page for 2000 Bloggers and place a meta tag on it instructing robots not to crawl that particular page. Or you can post the pics but not the links. As I recall there is no explicit edict that everyone in the 2000 Bloggers list must and should link to everybody else’s site. One can return the favor to Tino by linking to his site, nothing more.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Geez can people not see the point I’m trying to make here. Google recommends having no more than 100 links on any given page. Now we are talking 2000 bloggers with 2000 links on a given page. Now of course not everyone added the code, but a good majority did. Google will consider that a link farm. Google has and will penalize link farms. I’m not going to run that risk of being penalized.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 5:16 pm
The positive aspect is that I’ve discovered your weblog — not only does your weblog make me go HMmmm but the pillow whack was the clincher in deciding to make regular visits here!
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 5:22 pm
I see your point, Rose. I read somewhere else that he took down the site. I wonder if this is true?
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 5:24 pm
I noticed that 2000 bloggers now has a new home. I have requested to be removed, but my photo is still on there.
I hope that you have better luck being removed than I am.
Should I whack you with a pillow again?
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 7:19 pm
It is true. He did take down the site and it has moved to 2kbloggers where I appear to be experiencing some difficulty getting it removed from.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Yeah, I went there…and he did move it.
It’s so crazy that you were added when you didn’t even want to be.
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 10:06 pm
So it might please you to know that your comment, thanking me for deleting the 200o bloggers link, led me to come read a bit and manually add a link and subscribe via RSS so I can read more.
Thanks
Wrote: Feb 7, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Interesting posting. I’m part of the 2000 bloggers project and had asked to be included. I didn’t do it to up my rankings (I still don’t understand how that all works). I did it because it was an interesting way to discover new blogs that are out there. It beat’s hitting Blogger’s “Next” button.
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 12:56 am
Rose, I just met ya and I am just stating my opinion, so don’t take any of this personally. OK? It’s not about you, in my eyes, it’s about politics. If the A list bloggers had been positively affected by some other grand blog idea that they had come up with, no one would be complaining right now.
I have to say that I feel no guilt or need to renounce the 2000 Bloggers… and have myself removed. I have said on a few sites that for giggles I had a “my blog is worth$” widget from technorati… but in truth I couldn’t care less where I fit in in Technorati’s big fat popularity contest (and since the whole debate over 2000 bloggers started a few days ago, removed it).
“Links are currency”… only if you use it as currency. I don’t use technorati, I use bloglines to view my favorites even though I have a few blogs marked as such in Technorati. I have had a lot of trouble in the past with T., and no matter how many times I reinstalled their code to their specifications, it refused to ping my blog. Eventually, after seeing that T. said my blog hadn’t been updated in over a month, despite me having tried several times to get the stupid thing to work… I gave up.
I guess considering that I have 4 different blog rolls on my blog for different meme’s wouldn’t make me any better in the eyes of some of the T. elitists… so why not join 2000 Bloggers, and to which I will say again- who cares? I did it for fun, for comradeship, because my blogging friends were. It was nice to see my face up there with friends and strangers alike.
I am satisfied with the readers that I have, numbers don’t mean a thing to me. If I get more readers great! BUT I certainly wouldn’t want to be one of those “superior blogs” that get hundreds of comments that they don’t have the time or the want to respond to.
Which begs the question- why bother to blog at all? Why have comments open if you aren’t going to take the time to read any of them and respond to your readers… you know the ones who are linking to you… and giving you that really nifty T. rating, and all that blogosphere currency?
Like- oh my god, the cheerleaders so wont let me sit at the popular kid’s table, because I like didn’t make the squad.*sniff*
In the end, Technorati and 2000 bloggers wont be remember 50 years from now. No one will care, and all of this fuss will have been over what? Imaginary, un-spendable blog currency, bogus celebrity and artificial ranking?
I guess all I am trying to say is that all the dorks and nice people like me ( I consider myself both, most of the time, but I have my moments, LOL) that joined 2000 bloggers did it for innocent reasons. I am not going to let Big Bad Technorati or the snooty A list bloogers sully that.
I’m good, and my 2000 Bloggers button equipped with a single handy-dandy link stays.:wink:
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 2:33 am
Google is known to actively penalize link farms. Everyone knows that Google is king of search engines.
Mert, you have the right to your opinion and I certainly have the right to mine. This is not about Technorati, it is about Google.
You may not care if Google or the other search engines ban you, but I do.
Most search engines penalize sites associated with link farms and just tonight I discovered that over 130 + websites use the code.
That is 130 + sites with 2000 links on one page. That is 130+ link farms in Google’s eyes that my blog would be associated with.
Google states there should be no more than 100 links on one page or it is considered a link farm.
The 2000 project started as a way of networking sites together and then is became this huge “linkfest.”
My husband and I spent 3 hours and a half attempting to get my pic and link removed when I did not even sign up.
This has all become one big headache for me.
I never asked to be added and though I was flattered at first to be added, I now wish I was never made part of it.
Although the intentions may have been good, Google is not going to see it that way.
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 9:19 pm
I certainly respect your decision Rose. I too was added in the original 300. I’m not quite sure how Tino found me but I didn’t mind being added. I have had a number of people visit my blog and comment who might not have found me otherwise. I think that spin off sites intended to function as “link farms” might spawn creating a challenge to sites like technorati who are trying to keep net rankings legitimate. I’m interested in seeing what happens.
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 9:21 pm
Holy cow what’s the big deal with the 2000 Bloggers project!
You didn’t request to be added. Tino added you without requesting your permission and even took your photo!
So I believe you have the right to OPT out if you so wish, after all its personally your choice!
Besides I have reviewed this so called list and time will tell what happens to the project after the next search engine algorithm is completed.
Man it makes me glad not to be a blogger – all these soap operas – quick someone change the channel!
Shawn:mrgreen:
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Thanks Ken! I hope my blog will have something that you find interesting.:mrgreen:
Billy thanks for commenting and for respecting my decision to be removed from something I did not sign up for.
Shawn, Pass the Tylenol, please. I have a headache.:lol:
Wrote: Feb 8, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Honestly Rose, it’s the blank spot that used to be your photo that lead me here and read this entry. There is a good point to join the project, imho, for encouragement included. I blog mostly in my mother tongue and have, though small, loyal readers, but I think I got to work more on this English one. As you asked,”Do [I] deserve all those inbound links?”