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	<title>Comments on: Google: Cyber Harassment and Cyber-Stalking on Google&#8217;s Blogger</title>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of speech doesn&#039;t mean defamation is allowed.  The problem is Blogger only goes so for to cooperate with subpoenas for accounts by contacting the blog owner of defamaing material for the purpose of quashing the subpoena. Google has been uncooperative thus far with my subpoenas beyond their initial procedure. 

They are forcing me to file a Motion to Compel and for sanctions. Other services like AOL will obey the laws, but Google is making false claims stating they only recognize cases filed in Santa Clara&#039;s court jurisdiction.  So my case is in San Diego and Google claims it won&#039;t honor it as a result? That&#039;s a violation of State law.  I&#039;ve filed two lawsuits against cyberstalkers I was able to identify. One took his nasty defaming blog completley down after a deposition was conducted.  AT&amp;T also gave me important evidence of Internet IP records for $60 fee. 

 I even have a restraining order against one who threatened my notary business I had two witnesses, one who flew out from Vancouver WA to testify.  I conducted two depositions of these guys and they lie out their behinds.

  Blogger.com really needs to empower it&#039;s users to obtain IP addresses of posters to their blogs and to get anonymous blog account holder information.  This guy wrote some serious trash and lies about me, and Google has been very uncooperative seemingly believing itself above the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of speech doesn&#8217;t mean defamation is allowed.  The problem is Blogger only goes so for to cooperate with subpoenas for accounts by contacting the blog owner of defamaing material for the purpose of quashing the subpoena. Google has been uncooperative thus far with my subpoenas beyond their initial procedure. </p>
<p>They are forcing me to file a Motion to Compel and for sanctions. Other services like AOL will obey the laws, but Google is making false claims stating they only recognize cases filed in Santa Clara&#8217;s court jurisdiction.  So my case is in San Diego and Google claims it won&#8217;t honor it as a result? That&#8217;s a violation of State law.  I&#8217;ve filed two lawsuits against cyberstalkers I was able to identify. One took his nasty defaming blog completley down after a deposition was conducted.  AT&amp;T also gave me important evidence of Internet IP records for $60 fee. </p>
<p> I even have a restraining order against one who threatened my notary business I had two witnesses, one who flew out from Vancouver WA to testify.  I conducted two depositions of these guys and they lie out their behinds.</p>
<p>  Blogger.com really needs to empower it&#8217;s users to obtain IP addresses of posters to their blogs and to get anonymous blog account holder information.  This guy wrote some serious trash and lies about me, and Google has been very uncooperative seemingly believing itself above the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite a situation for a lot of people. Let me tell you my story with Blogger. I apologize in advance for (1) it&#039;s a long story and (2) doing this in your blog, but honest to God I don&#039;t think I have any other place to tell it.

I used to follow and comment on several politics blogs. You can assume that certain interchanges got a bit inflammatory because, well, it&#039;s politics. Even though insults flew and feuds began, things were not so bad at all. People didn&#039;t take it too seriously, or so I believed.

One day, a very inflammatory and narcissistic poster appeared out of nowhere. People didn&#039;t take him too seriously and just ignored him. Apparently being ignored made him very angry, so he created another identity that he used to post insults -- basically a troll. A group of bloggers (including me) did a bit of research and exposed him publicly. Now I wish I hadn&#039;t done so, because he created a bunch of blogs (all of them SEO&#039;d through blog catalogs and link spamming) with a lot of false accusations towards the people that exposed him, mixed with personal information (pictures, phone nos, addresses and how-to-get-to-our-homes maps) that he gathered by stalking all of us. He certainly spent a good amount of time.

I decided to completely retire from blogging. I closed my blog, I don&#039;t post any comments anymore and so on. It&#039;s just not worth it. In fact, this is the first time I post a comment since more than six months.

Anyways, the worst thing of all this was Blogger&#039;s response to our complaints. &quot;Oh, no, we are just a *PROVIDER* of content, so what this guy does is not our responsibility, sorry!&quot;. Their very lax and seldom enforced rules, protected by law, are just an incentive for harassment and stalking. 

I agree with you, that&#039;s not free speech. Freedom always implies responsibility. And I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;s been through something like this.

But, oh well, that&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite a situation for a lot of people. Let me tell you my story with Blogger. I apologize in advance for (1) it&#8217;s a long story and (2) doing this in your blog, but honest to God I don&#8217;t think I have any other place to tell it.</p>
<p>I used to follow and comment on several politics blogs. You can assume that certain interchanges got a bit inflammatory because, well, it&#8217;s politics. Even though insults flew and feuds began, things were not so bad at all. People didn&#8217;t take it too seriously, or so I believed.</p>
<p>One day, a very inflammatory and narcissistic poster appeared out of nowhere. People didn&#8217;t take him too seriously and just ignored him. Apparently being ignored made him very angry, so he created another identity that he used to post insults &#8212; basically a troll. A group of bloggers (including me) did a bit of research and exposed him publicly. Now I wish I hadn&#8217;t done so, because he created a bunch of blogs (all of them SEO&#8217;d through blog catalogs and link spamming) with a lot of false accusations towards the people that exposed him, mixed with personal information (pictures, phone nos, addresses and how-to-get-to-our-homes maps) that he gathered by stalking all of us. He certainly spent a good amount of time.</p>
<p>I decided to completely retire from blogging. I closed my blog, I don&#8217;t post any comments anymore and so on. It&#8217;s just not worth it. In fact, this is the first time I post a comment since more than six months.</p>
<p>Anyways, the worst thing of all this was Blogger&#8217;s response to our complaints. &#8220;Oh, no, we are just a *PROVIDER* of content, so what this guy does is not our responsibility, sorry!&#8221;. Their very lax and seldom enforced rules, protected by law, are just an incentive for harassment and stalking. </p>
<p>I agree with you, that&#8217;s not free speech. Freedom always implies responsibility. And I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;s been through something like this.</p>
<p>But, oh well, that&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Brew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rose,

thanks for your reply. I&#039;m afraid I didn&#039;t receive your mail. Would you please try again?

Thanks and best regards,

Brew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose,</p>
<p>thanks for your reply. I&#8217;m afraid I didn&#8217;t receive your mail. Would you please try again?</p>
<p>Thanks and best regards,</p>
<p>Brew</p>
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		<title>By: Rose DesRochers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose DesRochers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brew, I sent you a private email regarding this and I&#039;m sorry to hear  that you are the subject of such a blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brew, I sent you a private email regarding this and I&#8217;m sorry to hear  that you are the subject of such a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Brew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello folks,

This is indeed very frustrating that Google / blogger don&#039;t enforce their own terms of use. I have a stalker too. He has created several hate-blogs already, but Blogger doesn&#039;t close them down although they know about my problem.

My son told me yesterday that he googled my name with blog-search and bumped in the latest hate-blog of that anonymous person.



Although I had complained umpteen times against this and other hate-blogs, there&#039;s no one who does something against this. 

Maybe here&#039;s somebody who could help me in this case? Does anybody know a direct contact? You could provide any information via my moderated comments function. I won&#039;t publish any private information nor any comment which would be related to that stalker.

Thanks and best wishes.

Brew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello folks,</p>
<p>This is indeed very frustrating that Google / blogger don&#8217;t enforce their own terms of use. I have a stalker too. He has created several hate-blogs already, but Blogger doesn&#8217;t close them down although they know about my problem.</p>
<p>My son told me yesterday that he googled my name with blog-search and bumped in the latest hate-blog of that anonymous person.</p>
<p>Although I had complained umpteen times against this and other hate-blogs, there&#8217;s no one who does something against this. </p>
<p>Maybe here&#8217;s somebody who could help me in this case? Does anybody know a direct contact? You could provide any information via my moderated comments function. I won&#8217;t publish any private information nor any comment which would be related to that stalker.</p>
<p>Thanks and best wishes.</p>
<p>Brew</p>
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